get past that little stuff. Hoffman talks a lot about being ``partners`` and working with upper management closely to obtain shared objectives. They sound like a great team. You don`t think Hoffman saw the potential and thought we could get this to big board and with the right visibility drive the price well past $20. I would love to know how many employees of Hoffman went out and bought.

and by the way, some guy on RB posted an article published last week that supposedly Hoffman had a hand in. Great lines from Pohl. I will try to copy it.