I remember biajj once said somthing like--``Infringement enforcement is like trimming a tree--you start with the branchs and eventually you get to the trunk``--something like that anyway. I wonder if this is what they had in mind when they went after the J3--getting to ARMHY/the trunk? I just read the statement made by ARMHY`s ceo again and in it he stated that they had examined (so he had knowledge before the statement was made) the patents and did not think that they were at fault. Thank you for all of your input, ads