Perhaps this little slogan Marines use is the approach to take with the gaggle of new ``contributors`` to our forum. For legitimate new posters, come in with the right attitude and you`ll get a fair shot from the group. Display basher tendencies and you will be summarily shot and your carrion remains left for the birds with the big beaks. Have a great and safe holiday all. Please do not drink and drive. My loved ones could be sharing the road with you...

Kirk