no clif notes or spoon feeding here, there is lot more to say but I kept it short. but apparantly the topic was out of line and again I must apologize. I figure most here are smarter than the average bear because they saw PTSC potential and acted upon it. Myself, I try to do only this: act justly, love tenderly, and walk humbly with my God. But admit it, you kinda liked those cliff note type thoughts, opening some really deep introspection for those capable of that... and by the way, I did not ``start`` this thread but nonetheless see that it was ill advised.