Nickel lets change the topic. Thanks Traps for reminding me about the LME levels. It is just a waiting game isn't it. I was watching the series meltdown and it really struck me how wide spread the ramifications of the sub prime mortgage fiasco really was. I looked at GCR and they are looking at a 1:9 consolidation. We were looking at that choice to when the original JJ financing came through. I ran through numbers in my head at $0.15 a share for pp done and the matching JJ transactions and the notes payable were a much better choice IMHO. It seems like many hurdles are coming across the way but to develop a mine is not an easy thing. It takes a tremendous amount of capital. Our financings have always gone into the company and we can see where it has been spent. Gary has been in Timmins this week. Lets hope it has been a successful one.