Nickel, you have brought up some very good points. Posting seems to be a strategic game and depending on what is going on at the ISM board we have seen the results on this board. But we are members of the Shaw Dome.

In terms of our financials we have seen the negative result of the financial downturn. Part of balance is seeing the other side of the financials and no one has truly argued about the positive aspects. I am not an expert and I have left the topic alone. Soon enough our financials will start reflecting greater production and we will have the statements to support it. We will also have the press releases reflecting quotable statements of what our true costs are.

I can turn to the ISM board and recognize some of our forum members posting on their board. They have seen much posted, and some of it has not been positive to what ISM is about. I have to respect that fact too.

When people insult other posters, that is a violation. If posters constantly repeat and emphasize a particular negative aspect that can be a negative too. Part of the job of forum members is to mark posts as violations. I have not seen this done. This is forum member's job too. It is not just the hub leader's job.

As a fact -we have alot of preferred shares issued. They represent debt and our company has to repay that debt. When we start repaying that cost we can prove that we are handling that problem with results. I believe this will happen but it is all a matter of time. So is it wrong for someone to state they do not think that we will be able. To my mind, once in a while is OK but not in every post. Just my perception.