Good post Traps. It reminds us about the gradual start up and the hill we are still climbing. I think of how much we have accomplished since last Nov and the shut down. It was devastating when the financing fell through and we just watched falling Ni prices. I think Gary accomplished tremendous things but stopping us going into bankrupcy. I think the Chinese have been good partners coming through when we needed them. Yes, we are 49% of something vice 100% of bankrupt. Now our businesses are starting up again carefully. This month has been the startup of our mill. At the end of the month (which is within a week) we will see more of an update from Gary and find out more. Yes I am impatient but startups are like this. We have to give the work ups a chance to happen. Anyway, thanks Traps - you just reminded me about everything!