Whaler...you mentioned you would like to go shopping and were looking for money, yes borrowing , is high risk, but one usually has to pay some sort of a return on borrowing. I understand that a lot of investors here are in for a lot higher sp price, but averaging down on a company going in to full production with good resource assets and infrastructure , even though is high risk, in my opinion is educated risk, but still risk which investing in any stock is. Traps7