Liberty, I am not into contests between posters. I find I am usually the one to lose. That being said - I for one was recommended by Whaler to be a hub leader. I was surprised but expected nothing to happen from it. So each time you bring it up, well it is put in my face, I also did not have the 3.5 score on this site but I stayed on the SH site and did not post here. I was angler21. It does not mean I was not actively involved with this stock and am not interested in Lbe the share and company doing well. I am. I take my family's financial security very much to heart and I would not invest in this company if I did not believe in it.

Also, when Algoracom asked me to be hub leader, I turned to Nickel77, Sarak(Pardon my sp, I cannot see the sp right now), JohnEStrom and Buxom and asked them if they wanted the job. None of them said they wanted it, so I agreed to be hub leader.

At times this forum is like a battleground. It is not necessary and I do not like feeling I am in the midst of it. If messages are being marked as violations and they really were not then maybe both hub leaders have to look at their biases. Personal battles have no place here and emotions sometimes have to take a back seat.

I know this has been hard for all of us. Some of us are looking at a court case. It saddens me, but it warns me that we all have to act responsibly.

Obnoxious posters should be banned and the two that were banned deserved it. Lets not have this site become a site of questioning everyones motives. It is fine to question and refute opinions. It is also fine to show why we think the way we do.

You say I can pretend it is for mutual betterment for Shaw Dome. Yes I can because until proven otherwise I choose to. That Liberty is free will. Just like you choose to have your own opinions. Just like John chooses to be suspicious of anything related to Xstrata.

I respect all opinions because I know many of them are based on experience. I just believe that if we are going to have a positive sentiment is this share we have to put some of the anger behind us.