I agree with Whaler, you & or JES have shown a VG understanding of the workings of LBE.I enjoy reading the informative posts the 2 of you have put on this forum. I would also like to wish Liberty all the best in the ISM mess.My own thots are that others from the other board should be nervous about some of their comments,however,this ,hopefully will be a lesson for anyone posting here or on SH. Here's to better times. Cheers