nijinsky, thanks for the explanation. i'm glad the bad news is already out, and everyone except me already knew about it, and understood it. the goodwill, or maybe they should call it badwill, from the bema acquisition is more than kinross paid altogether for aurelian. as long as it's factored into the current price, i guess it won't matter. but if kinross was going to overpay for a company, i wish it had been aurelian.