C#m, That place where this sector is so crushed that it can only go up, I would say, we have already been to. We are so used to getting pooped on, that that tremendous onslaught when Kimber fell from $180 to 45 cents just seemed to be par for the course, but that was a major crushing. We are existing on bread and water right now. It doesn't get much worse. Gold goes up, Kimber makes great discoveries, the US prints more money than one would think possible without facilitating a dollar collapse, the voices of our forefathers and every dead economist and statesman and ruler in the history of mankind cry out from their tombs and still we languish. Bull