Keep in mind that Black Horse is the best with Big Daddy second best in chromite and our in dispute right of way, so we are still in the game, along with our new smelting process. Very disappointed though that Frank could not come up with a lousy 20 Mill to buy out Cliffs 500 mill investment in the ROF. All the talk that we should have something finalized by last Christmas sure rings hollow now. I frankly don't know in the short term if we will benefit or not. The Appeal still has to proceed and I am sure that Cliffs will just be replaced by NOT re the Appeal. Seeing some major action in the ROF, just not sure it is the kind of action I was hoping for. Anyway, good for NOT, this is great news for them. rj