Rookie, Cliffs had someone on the KWG Board but they were forced to resign when Cliffs made the unsolicited offer for both KWG/SPQ back in May of last year. According to Hoyle, they are not supposed to be able to buy any additional KWG shares for I understand, 1 year after making their intention to try and secure ownership of KWG. As you may recall, they recanted and used the divide and conquer to separate KWG/SPQ and at that time said they were not interested in the survivor which turned out to be KWG. We all know that is bs and we are just waiting for them to come acalling anytime now. As the song goes, "if I had a million dollars" I would put it all on buying KWG at these prices. This may be construed as a pump but I have been following KWG very closely the past couple of years and feel this one is going to definitely be a winner, the question is when? rj