Whaler, glad to help with the input. I am just one of the "starry eyed buffoons that believed the LBE story". But also I believe that ISM does have the right to promote their business on their boards. Reading your promotional page I believe you talk of several 1 1/2 million tonne targets. I don't quite understand where your open pit design works in. The overburden at 0.3% Cu with some gold byproducts basically argues I believe that the overburden recoveries may offset some of the costs. I hope that proves true. I truely believe that the good health of all the Shaw Dome properties is good for all. I look forward to the day when your 43-101 comes out for it will be very interesting reading. I also realize it can take a considerable amount of time to do it right. The brochure was very interesting reading. I don't pretend to understand everything but there was alot of good information in it.