You certainly understand the subject Deer and from my perspective you know it far better than most managements of junior emerging producers or even some mid-sized or major mining firms. The people running these companies simply don't know the subject that well and certainly have no idea what to do to defeat these algos as no one has come forward with an innovative way forward or for that matter with anything that I am aware of that has worked to even help solve this market problem. Numerous people are this board are smarter and have more intelligence than many mining people running companies.