Scout, ECU is valued at 53 cents per ounce silver. ECU also owns the mills and is in production. GOG has no income stream. After what just happened with the arbitration, maybe people in the know have been avoiding GOG because of their perception of management. GOG also has some very nice gold intercepts on another property they are exploring in Canada I think. For the type of engineering I do, the average law suit rate is one every three years per engineer. I have been lucky enough for 27 years to never get sued, but word gets out about the clients who sue engineers and nobody will work for them in the future in many cases, ie they are avoided like the plague.