Scruffy if you have followed my previous posts, both here and on the other board, you will understand what I am trying to say.
I for one do not want to see the worst of what could happen, but I do want to have whatever protection I can get in order for my grandchildren to have some kind of future.
I want TPTB to let the system down gently, but they really are not helping by "pulling the boners" that they do.
As for the situation we are in today because of the "crooks, banksters etc", I cannot see any possibility of paying off the debt that has been created.
Scruffy, if you want paper forms of gold, without restrictions, the banksters will accommodate you in droves.
Only real metal matters, not paper promises.
Good Luck to all!