First I will not except being told I don;t know what ECU has been doing. I also asked this forum in the past if they had involvement with ECU personally. I think I got my answer now. Lawnbowler when did you buy into ECU , if you don;t mind truth and at what price. I also didn't mind seeing the real charts of ECU for the last few years. Hope none of you missed that. I remember well I bought in when the initial results came in. And then I love the report from someone elses anylist about ECU and what it needed to do to make a PROFIT. No one has to read what I have wrote but mine has been made mostly on fact. Anyone who would like to argue that read your own reports. My argument should be taken seriously. You think I am writing to hurt anyone on this board. Thats absurd. For every article I write I will gladly bring back the reports written by others. Lastly I have always respected everyones view, but you can't tell me I am lying or imagining the truth. How dare anyone say ECU management deserves more for unservaluating your stock. As they said in Jerry Mc Guire show me the money. Go back a few of these offerings from other gurus, they admit the same thing I have said for months,if not a year that ECU is not managing its operation to satisfactory conditions. What if we all opened a place for three years and didn't even see close to profit do you think our business would still be running. Whats it going to take. I will go to the end . Already lost 70 percent, lets see who is here at ten cents. Only the ones who are getting paid by ECU.