I's like to weigh in here with my $.02 worth.. first, I try to read everyones posts here, as there is a wealth of information to be gleaned from this forum, and I appreciate everyones contribution. It's the best forum like this I have found. Second, I am not a paid shill, I am a loyal ECU shareholder waiting as are all of us for our day in the sun.

I have felt as GOLD88888 has for a long time, thinking that the reality of the ECU play will/can overwhelm the manipulators. And eventually I do think this will happen. But the question is when? If we concede that the PTB have essentially unlimited resources to stand on the offers of literally dozens of companies, knowing that naked shorts do not have to ever be covered, at what point will these sleazeballs let these things trade? The obvious answer is when they are ready to make money going long. They won't have to "cover" anything of substance, there will just be an "unfortunate accounting error" and the naked shorts will be zeroed out, probably with some financial benefit to the scum that screws this market.

This game is rigged guys, I wish it wasn't, but it is. When I started reading this forum I guess three years or so ago, the posts were mostly about the fundamentals. Now the posts are primarily about the manipulation. We all know what the game is. All the cycles, TA, Elliott Wave stuff,etc, while having some merit, really are dwarfed by the chart painters and naked shorters keeping us on a slow cook until as frogs in the pot we find we're too cooked to jump out. We will make money either if there is a black swan event that shakes the foundations of the whole financial system (my fondest wish as nobody deserves to be screwed more than these theives!) or, when the insiders decide to let gold and silver run to their profit.

I for one would like to hear from ECU management and get some sort of assurance that this game of shorting and covering with secondary offering stuff is OVER. The best news of all to me is that ECU has the potential to self fund their future, and get away from the greaseballs in Vancouver.

Sorry for the rant, this just got my blood boiling.