Shares outstanding on front page of agoracom , whenhas it changed? Information of costs, production, cost of company compensation, where is this information? Your right Mooseslayer is this not a ecu forum? Are we not suppose to be sharing information that is exciting to those who may check our sight? Just saw how much was produced in the last 5 months what was the amount of capitol and expenditures.? Does ecu have anyone in accounting? Our latest presentattion was in May of this year. Gold has risen since then, come on we know thats true. Gold has risen since then we know thats true. Production is moving, 300 employees have been hired, and still we see this ridiculious price on ecu. Until the shareholders stand up and make a stand we will continue to be manipulated with promises and hopes that don't add up. I would love for once to see us all stand up together for once and make a difference, instead of talking the same old story every 3 months. Oh watch what is going to happen now. I can't wait. This is outward bull. We need honest answers, honest reports, honest stock price and someone to make the effort to do so. If that is ecu who has to make the effort everyone should get on this band wagon together. If it is the forum who needs to give out answers to all on this board, then someone should stepup and get these answers. Of course everyone would have to back this up. Everyone wants to talk about GATA, Tea Parties, the SEC how about us as shareholders standing up to our rights. If all is true the 43/101 reports the mill operating, and finances are in place this should not be a overwhelming problem. IT IS ALL ON THE BOOKS. We deserve fair and true statements and not the manipulation that has continued for to long. So let the debate begin because this is a forum for ecu and its shareholders, not a place for people who would like to sway us to believe that a leprecaun is going to bring us a pot of gold.