Chilton would have us believe that he shares our concerns about position limits and shorting by banks of silver and gold in the COMEX....But if the banks were forced to cover, it would blow up these markets sky high,,,,and that would point to glaring dollar problems for the public. Therefore the CFTC will not probably include gold and silver in this discussion...

Unless,,,,

This fall the US officially defaults on its currency, or it also plans to close the COMEX due to unruly markets,,,or some ruse involving a pretense of investigation....and it is preparing the propaganda mill for the process. Phillips and for sure Watson have no idea that the COMEX was designed to do exactly what it IS doing to control the price. FETEKE wrote a fine article about this some years ago....and he was there to watch it....

In other words when these crooks start to talk about cleaning up some markets, it isn't going to be a good thing...How can it be!?

Quite frankly the other reason that they are discussing this now may be because the market is going to blow anyway....and this is an ass-covering program they are starting....I just don't know how they plan to extricate the banks from their shorts except to declare a moratorium on gold and silver (price freezing again?) or change the rules to allow the shorts to cash out,,,,or take ETF shares and no metal. There are still dangers to the banks, because this act will still blow gold and silver because it would be a public declaration of metal too cheap and of manipulation and every futures market in the world dealing with PMs would go to physical transactions only....or be forced (like the COMEX) to shut down...End Game... The US is unpopular enough without that,,,,or is it?

Maybe they'll fine JPM etc for the spec losses obligations and then bail them out at taxpayer expense? We know the currency is going south anyway,....The public won't hear much about this anyway...

But the safest bet is for the crooks to do nothing and leave the metals out of the hearings. In other words all of this is just noise. Sinclair's MOPE.

Sheeeshh, isn't this just a constant source of speculation and black humour?

FWIW.

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For many years, accusations that JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Bank of America and Goldman Sachs have wide open and huge, exposed short positions against gold and silver, have been made by groups like GATA and others. In the United States these four banks control over 90% of the derivatives market. They too will be subject to "substantial supervision and regulations," including conservative capital requirements and strong business conduct standards. U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is set to propose giving securities and futures regulators authority to police the over-the-counter derivatives market. Discussions on these regulations begin next week.

Oil market regulation is the first target so as to keep oil prices free from speculatively higher prices. Other markets, including Gold & Silver, are being targeted for regulation at the same time. The Secretary is moving to address these accusations and ensure that the markets involved are managed in an orderly, regulated manner. On the surface it appears that these regulations will simply affect the markets from the day of the enforcement of the regulations and thereafter, but it is more likely that actions to clean up their acts will start much earlier, if there has been market manipulation?

Mr. Geithner stated, “Our plan will help prevent market manipulation, fraud and other abuses by providing full information to regulators about activity in the OTC derivative markets.” The Securities and Exchange Commission, which oversees securities, and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which supervises futures markets, would have authority to impose recordkeeping and reporting requirements on the derivatives. This plan is geared toward removing counterparty risks by requiring greater use of central counterparties and imposing stricter capital standards on participants. If Mr. Geithner’s staff succeeds in bringing true transparency to these markets, either the charges of manipulation will be dropped or the manipulation will be halted!

Are the Banks ‘short’?

The sheer size of the derivatives market is enormous, but this is not too much of a concern in itself, provided the great majority of positions match each other or stock is held against the ‘open’ positions.

In other words, for example, where someone sells a futures contract, there will be someone who buys it. This would ‘match’ the position and remove risk from the overall exchange position. However, where there were sales of the commodity that were not ‘matched’ [where there is none of the product to deliver into the contract] one would be left with an exposed position with no real counterparty. This is called going ‘short’. Going ‘long’ is the other way, but also involves a seller. The buyer must buy from some counterparty that should be able to supply the item on the date of maturity of the contract. If he can’t then the position of the overall exchange is ‘short’ and can’t deliver stock to the buyer. Once it has stock, the seller must go into the market to buy the item so he can deliver to the buyer thereby ‘close’ the position.

The Exchange on which the transaction is dealt is responsible for ensuring that all contracted items can be delivered on the date of maturity of the contract. The exchange itself should hold the physical amount of the item in its own warehouse that needs to be delivered to the buyers whose position is not ‘matched’. This ensures an orderly market.

The accusations that have attended the four banks are that they cannot deliver the physical item because they are heavily ‘short’ to the extent that prices are heavily manipulated. The closing and subsequent opening again, of these positions, on due date, enables the ‘short’ position to be perpetuated for as long as the bank wants to, despite the potential losses or gains sitting in the contract over time. Provided the new regulations are efficient such exposed positions will be highlighted, bringing the wrath of the government and the public on these institutions once more.

If they are what will they do?

Imagine yourself holding huge short positions that are carrying massive losses, what would you do? The charges made by bodies like GATA are made by intelligent convinced men who tell us they have indisputable proof of long-term manipulation of the gold and silver markets. If they are correct, what will happen?

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If they are what will the CFTC do?

1. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission will hold public hearings from next week and in August to consider position limits in oil and gas markets. But that is not all.

2. A member of that Commission Mr. Chilton said he daily hears concerns about large positions being held in metals, particularly in silver and gold. Since last September, the CFTC's enforcement division has joined other federal and international regulators in an investigation into potential manipulation and concentration of positions in the silver market.

3. Chilton said he is unsure whether his fellow commissioners would support position limits on metals, but is hopeful the idea will gain momentum during the hearings on oil and gas.

The next few months will see, we hope, GATA’s work bear fruit in the correcting of market manipulation. We would hope that new regulations do just what Mr. Geithner promised they would do, to resolve current manipulation and to prevent future market manipulation. So what will happen to the gold market if the banks……….