I did not want to see a argument about ECU and there communications with others. It may be true especially with the information others give that they may get responses quicker. The only reson I brought it up was in the past truly Steve Altman would give a response to anyone who questioned ECUs matters. That being said we can only hope that whoever is in charge of these issues at ECU should have someone take the time to at least answer any shareholders questions. But bigpic has been a great attribute to this forum. He has spent the time to investigate and try to give any knowledge he has. ty PIC. I know we all want answers and we all should be able to get them directly from the company, so I guess the only real answer is to make sure that we all in a group ask management to make at least a statement to all of us.