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Resource projects cover more than 1,713 km2 in three provinces at various stages, including the following: hematite magnetite iron formations, titaniferous magnetite & hematite, nickel/copper/PGM, chromite, Volcanogenic Massive and gold.

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Message: Re: Be still, my beating heart - book value
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Lethal, thanks for referring to a previous analysis posted by TeleProbe which I appended below for reference. Hope that it will not be truncated when I upload, hence I attached the link you have provided, just in case.

http://agoracom.com/ir/Fancamp/forums/discussion/topics/517476-ferrotitanium-prices-are-at-historical-levels/messages/1641779#message

I have not spent the time to dissect the details provided in the post below. Only look at the macro components. In general term, I tend to agree with most, if not all, the analysis and discussions/speculations by TeleProbe.

1. We only talk Magpie, there is more to add to FNC valuation, and that's the problem that has caused heartache for many of us. I have stated this before, and this is no joke. If I won a $50M jackpot (this is good enough, don't need the $500M Mega thing in the USA), I would offer a 50% premium to scoop up the entire FNC, everything, Magpie et al. If there is a bidding war I would go as far as perhaps $45M (need to keep $5M in reserve for a waterfront property in the city)...and $45M is about 2x of the current market cap. I am not saying that this is what FNC is worth. It's only my limitation and willingness to spend up to $45M. If my offer is trumped by others, that would be fine, since I would, most likely, to make some cool million selling my stake to the winner (wiping tears all the way to the bank). It would be reanable to substitute "poor me" with an entity who actually has some real money and also be willing to go beyond the $45M, but would also be willing to let go for some obscene profit (remember the Falconbridge gambit played by Robert Friedland in the Voisey's Bay saga?). There is certain money to be made here.

2. The deposit is so huge, so no matter how you slice it as TeleProbe has done, the in-situ ore value is in the trillions of dollars. So, one need to apply a fraction (e.g. 5%, 1%) to take into account of the cost of taking it out from the ground, etc. and refining/purifying it to the standard for selling at high price. But the bottomline is that we have the stuff coming out of our ears, noting that the ores are sitting in the hill, so they don't even have to dig a pit, just scoop up the stuff from the surface. For 1% assumption the value came up to $82.45/share. 1% is a pretty low number to convert in-situ to above ground and ready-for-sale at some decent price. To be ultra convervative let's try 0.1% (TeleProbe would cringe). This itsy bitsy number would still result in $8.2/s which is above $5.0.

3. Agreed also that FNC may be too small to tackle this huge thing, but the value is there for some majors who could develop it in a controlled manner, since flooding the market with stuff would bring the price down...They all know the supply/demand principle.

TeleProbe, very nice analysis, but I would urge you to consider a $5/s as an initial bid. After all, this level, say $6.0/s represents a 6.00/0.30 = a 20 bagger. Let's see now, $10,000 x 20 = $200,000, $50,000 x 20 = $1M (a millionaire, but this is taxable!).

goldhunter

---------------posted by TeleProbe-----------------

Re: Ferrotitanium Prices are at "Historical Levels"

posted on Feb 01, 12 03:13AM Use the IP Check tool [?]

I guess I need a refresher course for that elementary school arithmetic I applied to our tonnage.
I don’t know how I came up with a 25% credit of our ore to arrive at 100% ferrotitanium;
in other words, needing four kilograms of our ore to derive one kilogram of ferrotitanium.

Naturally, the corrected number needs to account for how many kilograms at 11% titanium
we need to yield the 79.3% “typical” of ferrotitanium. That is 79.3 divided by 11 = 7.209.
In other words, on a kilogram-by-kilogram basis, our ore yields 13.87% of what we need
(not the 25%, I said earlier). So, I will present the numbers again (this time corrected and
rounded off differently):

1 billion tonnes = 1 trillion kilograms
13.87% of 1 trillion kilograms = 138.7 billion kilograms
138.7 billion kilograms = 126.7 billion kilograms after 12 billion kilograms are lost in the process
126.7 kilograms X $7.90 per kilogram = one trillion dollars

So now (instead of the $1.58 trillion I came up with before) we only have $1 trillion to divide up
and discount (because the ore needs to be purified and brought to market).

1% of $1 trillion = $10 billion.
That’s $82.45 for one fully diluted share (as of 12/16/11).

5% of $1 trillion = $50 billion.
That’s $412.25 for one fully diluted share (as of 12/16/11).

Of course, no matter how you slice it, all these numbers are astronomical.
Of course, we nor anyone else will be bringing all this ore to market at the same time.
Of course, theoretically, doing so will drive the price down to near zero.

Realistically, in the long run, our titanium resources, vast as they are, will wind up being
marketed, gradually, over hundreds of years.

Realistically, resources of these dimensions are not appropriate for the portfolio of a company
of our size. However, one way or the other, it is entirely appropriate we be paid for them at a
price somewhat higher than the $5 per share people keep bringing up. Also, I’ve only been
talking about Magpie. The rest of FNC is worth something (to say the least).

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