I hate getting personal on the forum. But, if folks will indulge: Sorry Rosehill. I liked your honesty and thought your sentiment reflected many who feel the same way. And by association with the context of shorts, I accidently accused you of a shorter. Sorry Rosehill, I never thought you were. Not sure where the manipulation came in, but I don't think you are a manipulator either.

cool?

What are your sources?

-sg