...it has been so long but wasnt there a board were the moderator went awol so lanman or beam or both started a new one...that wasnt iv was it, one that we left becuz it wasnt very user friendly or something???...oh well lost count but either way there have been a bunch...time killers arent they...funny how everyone refers to the mako trough in terms of exxon...thats how we like it...when all the chips come to the table...falcon will gets it due...like exxon being in charge...gofo and g'day