Loneeagle, to be clear, I hope my comments weren't taken to be confrontational. I'm ALWAYS interested to hear especially from former traders in the system. I never use market orders or stops but when liquidity is thin, the bid/ask can get volatile. One needs to be aware. I have commented in the past, penny stocks like EFL are no place for novice unsophisticated "traders" for exactly reasons you state. Please continue to post and glad to have you on board.  Now we wait for our Christmas announcement, ... or not.