Yes,  A Profit in Q4 would be great; however, I hesitate to predict because there will be one time scale up expenses.  I do think they will be very close to even!   Quarter 1 has always been slow due to the holidays and shippers not wanting to interupt the flow to install new equipment.  Even so Quarter 1 will be a profitable quarter as revenue inceases over Q4.  When have we seen that happen in the past?