Good stuff. I like that kind of thinking. Mr Sutz is an accomplished man.  If this is a scam, all involved could be facing jail time. I really don't think that these men at this point in life would risk that. Come on guys, this stock had no visibility when we all bought it. It still doesn't. We should not be surprised. As I said, Nick told me it would take a year to get the kind of openness that we all want. He wants to move DKSC to a bigger board and to do that he would need to open up the books. He said he really wants to do this but it would take time. I know some of you don't believe me but I really did talk to him. lets move this thing up. Good luck everyone.