No, Revemin has nothing to do with us any longer. Revemin comment was pointing out how quickly things go south in Vz once they take control. The money being spent in El Callao sucks and non response from Vz officials is unacceptable and we need to stop spending this cash.

My example of a possible solution is just that, a possibility. My key point was simply an up-front payment with the remainder compensation over time. And no, I don't think Crystallex will be involved beyond a transition period of time. We will be out of Vz. If you look at most settlements from Vz. Chavez pays over time more than all at once. This type of solution is what I think will occur, if at all. Right now, we have to believe management and watch and wait for the arbitration process to play out. Currently, picking arbitor.

And when will the notes be mitigated?