No Bear, I happen to be one of the people he mentions that PM'd him. I thanked the guy for taking the time to explain the options game (albeit as he sees it) and I understand a lot better because of it. I really have to say his banishment is a travesty to me. Quite simple, I can't believe it after some of the nasty sarcastic stuff that's gotten thrown around here. He sees the issue differently than OG and he doesn't just say "You big dope", he explains in detail why he believes what he believes. You should reconsider. I don't think it's right. Karl