EZ- I agree that we need to quit relying on the old excuses. Iv'e been saying all along that I'm sick of hearing them. We know that management has told us it appears political in the nature we havent received the permit. I don't think they even know what Chavez wants and if they do saying "political" isn't exactly a clear way of explaining it to their shareholders...so forgive me if I decline to take your opinion as fact. We both have stock in this speculative play. Its ok that everyone doesn't have the exact opinion as to our chances of success or how successful we will be. We (as in you and I) have not come to the realization this is not a case of IF but WHEN. To me its still an IF. I speculate it will.