Jingles in my opinion this has been coming no doubt IMO...maybe even before GT's infamous Bloomberg interview. I am not trying to say this is good or bad. In emails thoughout the last few months it has been sporadically ask to RM where RF or GT is....Almost everytime GT was in Toronto and on the occasions RF was in VZ GT was still in Toronto, especially recently...does that tell anything about the dealings of KRY with VZ?