hondo, agreed...in regards to manipulation (i rarely call it, and believe kry is'nt manipulated more than any other AMEX stock) but, the other morning i really get the feeling there was manipulation in place to take out the limit sells (it spiked 30%, which would take most small retail out)...been thinking about and if it could have held would'nt that have activated some type of margin requirement in regards to short positions? OR, with the removal of limit sell orders would'nt that affect the # of shares that could be shorted? in any case, i call "shenanigans" on the other morning....or like i said, maybe it was just sanz's wifes brother feeling lucky....