I have attempted in past emails to get out of Richard the specific activities GT as been involved with to secure a permit. Most responsed back are general in nature with a slight response to GT working behind the scenes. You are correct when you say RM provided the usual rhetoric to most responses partly due to that fact, and in my opinion, he does not have anything new to report or is allowed to report. It contiues to be a wait and see game working at the pace the VZ officals apparently operate at. I would say that time must be approaching our side of probability and at some point something must happen whether it be good or bad; I am expecting a permit to be clear.  I agree with you that I would like to see a more concerted approach from Management (I would say Gord Thompson) as it is long over due. My hope is that they know more then what is being communicated and are sitting on the edge of their seats for the call for a permit that is closer then most of us are aware of....hopefully...