Yes, I think they are at a loss as to the length of time it continues to take to issue the permit. The term "permit fatigue" that has been used in the past is an understatement and there has been and continues to be investors who have waited a very long time for something positive to happen. I don't blame those who have moved on and I can only hope that one day our day in the sun will come IF we can get this permit issued; nothing else really matters now. Both Richard Marshall and Andrea are out of excuses, ideas, reasons, explanations etc etc etc as to what to give investors by way of any positive comments. No doubt they must be frustrated.  What I cannot understand is where is Gord T in all of this? Is this a strategy so not to upset the government officals by keeping quit for as long as they have? Are KRY management on the verge of a permit just sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for it to happen? What does it really mean to say, " our staff is engaged and focused on the pemit"? To me part of the solution would be better communications keeping investors informed on their status, but again they appear not to have much to say other then the usual comments and continue to wait. In the end perhaps that's what we need to do. I mean, come on, how much longer can they delay it? Hey I fell better now, not any richer, but feel better.....Still sticking in, but being pushed to the limit....