I just hope that the people in charge in Vz have some inkling of a notion that business is 'in business' to make money....otherwise there is really no point. You are correct. A silly stock investment is not worth popping a vessel over. I feel that we are entitled (at the very least) to real information and direction as investors no later than December 15th with respect to the path going forward. If we don't have the permit by then.....I want to know exactly why....who....what.....when.....wher... how. Would you agree?