I don't think we will learn much from the Q2 numbers.  Teck is still in "guidance lockdown" mode.   I'll only be encouraged about the possibility of talks behind the scenes when I see Teck go into great glorifying details on the other satellite projects but say nothing about Schaft Creek.  That would seem pretty much par for the coarse but I am watching the evolving degrees of "saying nothing" and/or "backhanded slightings" of Schaft Creek, LOL.