I talked to Elmer last week and he was in the most positive spirits I've heard him in years I talked to him for well over an hour and this was after he just landed back in Calgary from PDAC and he was very informative about the process and what Teck is doing to move the project forward,I don't know what people expect him to say he is not going to tell you anything that in the slightest gets himself or CF in trouble with the regulators that's evident in the NR. Lynn at times can be a bit standoffish but that's to be expected because if her position and if it's an e-mail well that just to the point of you question and nothing more. Desk-Top is the last process to submitting an EA and should not take long,this was from a friend of mine that was at PDAC who was asking around what it meant,I doubt we will be around for that no point in Teck having us around.I dontknow why some would be selling know after being in CF for so long and just the last bit to go but that's their choice and all the best with their future investments.