I haven't posted much on this as we have no idea what is really going on behind the scenes. I hope there is a deal in the works and it's taking so long because of hard negotiations. The last thing I want to see is something like that JV that gave Teck everything they wanted with no timelines on almost anything. My opinion is it made Elmer look like he hadn't seen the ball since the kickoff and although I still think that's probably true, I would sure like to see some actual information from the company on some sort of plan. If there are talks I can see why they can't say anything to shareholders but news releases that never come true or or are about frivolous garbage like rock picking in Arizona and personally carrying them to the assay office is not the way to instill or restore my confidence.