Hey, if we don't have anything prepared for VRIC then hopefully we'll have some news before PDAC (March 4-7). If someone get to speak to ES , maybe ask if they plan on going to PDAC. I would assume so as we still have other holdings outside the SC JV. If we dont hear some substantial news before then there's something that defintely going on other than waiting on results. We are also in need of funds or partners for our other projects, so even the $20M production decision money would  go a long way at this point.