Lonestar, I hope you're right.  We've been stuck here way too long!  Imho, if Teck believes we are heading into a big copper deficit in the next 5 years now would be the time to move on SC.   "Rumors" of something about to happen may just turn out to be true.  I am hoping the best but at the same time being realistic given the past record of this management.  Let's hope common sense and realistic expectations prevail!