We can talk about a future buyout price however the closer we get to reaching a deal i'm sure the market will make sense of it and buy into the story especially when the optimization study comes out looking very good. Talking about premiums on today's price is pointless since Elmer won't sell the damn thing until those optimization results get published... thats the difference. I'm still one of the few that believes that we will get somewhere around the 3 dollar mark...