i dont even care so much about the production decision because once the optimization study is done then Elmer will list Schaft Creek for sale and thats when things will get more interesting.

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I think that is the exact reason why we won't see a finalized optimization study until Teck is good and ready to move on this, IMHO.

There are so many things they could use to hold this up until it is in their best interest to release the "finalized" optimization.