What kind of information are people expecting from these JV meetings? The next JV should be near the middle to end of September. I'm hoping we'll get some optimization results or at least an indication of what we can expect.

When I read the plan for the optimization studies I don't see anything that could be announced except at the end when a conclusion is drawn. For example, I assume they haven't received the metallurgical information yet and that's why they repeat they are engaged in studies.

The first one was in March and we got this:

Teck Resources Limited ("Teck") as operator of the Schaft Creek Joint Venture has recommended a comprehensive series of studies to review all aspects (including metallurgical, pit slope design, geological modelling and environmental) of the Schaft Creek project. The objective is to review all data collected on the Schaft Creek project to the end of 2013 to update and optimize various parameters of the project. The studies will be conducted internally by Teck and outside consultants will be retained if and when necessary.

The 2014 program also has a field program planned of mapping and re-logging core to obtain a better structural understanding of the Schaft Creek deposit for pit slope design purposes. Environmental monitoring studies will continue through 2014. The 2014 program is estimated to cost approximately $2.5 million.

The second one was in June and we got this, a sort of reiteration of the first one:

The Schaft Creek Joint Venture approved a 2014 program consisting of a comprehensive series of studies to review all aspects (including metallurgical, pit slope design, geological modelling and environmental) of the Schaft Creek project and to update and optimize various parameters with a goal to improving the economics of the Schaft Creek deposit. In addition to the ongoing optimization work; a field program of mapping and core re-logging is planned to collect additional structural information for pit slope design purposes and to update the geological model for the Schaft Creek deposit. The geological modelling on Schaft Creek could have implications on the potential size of this deposit as well as provide indicators that would aid future exploration on the other targets identified within the Schaft Creek property. Environmental monitoring studies will also continue through 2014. The 2014 Schaft Creek program is estimated to cost approximately $2.5 million.