If we had the same FS in 2011 or even earlier in 2012 when the market was better and there weren't as many bargains, it would be easier to try to get closer to full value. When everything else is down in the dumps and trading at fractions of their NAV, it's hard to ask for more than that when they can effectively get discounts elsewhere.

Given managements lax nature, the arguments for putting pressure on Teck and putting them in a tough spot to force them into buying us doesn't seem to be happening.