Webs, Think of it this way; if Elmer thinks the same as you privately, he is not going to say it publicly while he is still waiting on work from TT. I think that question is better addressed after the report is delivered to Teck and after the buyout is complete or the 120 days are over. He still might need them and changing horses in the middle of a stream is a risk I am certain he does not want to take. Therefore, this is something important to discuss with Elmer with respect to CUU 2, but not right now. Rip