I really don't see how you came to that conclusion. I invited you to join a conversation regarding other subjects than merely saying management sucks. I don't recall putting any limitations on you at all. The context of your reply however would indicate that the only oppinion/solution you have is that everything is managments fault. What I'd like to know is pick any subject. What could have happened/ what did happen. What did management do/ what would you have done. Discussion involves 2 or more people. I'm imterested in hearing what you've got to say other than management sucks.