I agree with Sam ,but the question remains why is this forum seemingly run by those who belittle the efforts of Connachers management and Connacher in general,I'm all for a debeates but dont think this is the forum ,ie this is supposed to be a forum for supporters of Connacher ,for sure point out the shortcommings but all I get from some of these posts is an all out "don't invest in this stock"but there is a good case to be made for the rehtoric being by MMs trying to direct buys and sells,still I look at the facts and derive a multitude of reasons to remain invested??