Oilsands:

I feel your consternation and frustration. The good news is, there are signs at least here in the US, that for high quality situations, money is starting to improve in flow. Still a long way to go however. Stupid GD bankers. They in large part, were responsible for the mess we are in with their stupid financing of everything under the sun, including of course, credit cards and mortgages to truly bogus applicants. And now, they are the primary problem in freeing up the system which their own stupid actions put at risk.

I will stop before I become profane! STUPID ##%%^&& GD bankers. And now we have to bail them out through mountains of Federal bail out debt!!

Brian